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"Blu-ray's fuzzy future" - a fuzzy look at Blu-ra - Hide thread - By Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars on January 5, 2009:
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The Bottom line: "When Vudu popped up and had more high-definition movies than Blu-ray, it was a warning sign," said Rob Enderle, president of the Enderle Group, which advises technology companies lik... Show entire thread and 13 responses
- The Bottom line: "When Vudu popped up and had more high-definition movies than Blu-ray, it was a warning sign," said Rob Enderle, president of the Enderle Group, which advises technology companies like Microsoft and Toshiba. "I think Blu-ray can sustain itself as a transition technology, but, at the end of the day, I don't think it will ever replace the DVD." Still, for some consumers, nothing beats the crisp, clear picture of a Blu-ray disc. "It's a huge difference," said Gary Tsang, 31, a computer network engineer in San Francisco who bought a $299 Blu-ray player in October and was among the shoppers who rushed out to buy "The Dark Knight" last month. Tsang added that Blu-ray made a real difference only when viewed on a good high-definition television, like the one his family bought in February for $2,700. "We're not bleeding edge, but we're cutting edge."
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Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars responds on 2009-01-05 23:49:51.0:
Anyways, I believe that Enderle's statement "I don't think it [Blu-ray] will ever replace the DVD." is just totally ridiculous. It's like saying that HDTV won't ever replace SDTV - which is patently absurd.
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The Swedish Chef of the Format Wars responds on 2009-01-06 05:57:53.0:
Study: Blu-ray Player Sales Beat 2008 Estimates
But disc sales fell short of expectations.
By Swanni
Washington, D.C. (January 6, 2009) -- Adams Media Research said yesterday that it was raising its year-end estimate of U.S. homes with standalone Blu-ray players from 2.9 million to 3.1 million.
The research firm said that fourth quarter sales, fueled by lower prices, went better than expected. Several retailers were offering Blu-ray players for under $200 during the holiday season.
"On the hardware front, things went exceedingly well," Tom Adams, Adams' president, told The Hollywood Reporter.
Adams Media Research did not include PlayStation 3 homes in its estimate of U.S. Blu-ray homes. But the NPD Group reported in November that 6.1 million PS3s, which have Blu-ray players inside, had been sold in the U.S. since launch.
If the two research firms are correct, that would mean that Blu-ray U.S. home penetration is now around 10 million.
However, despite the rise in player sales, Adams notes that Blu-ray discs did not sell as well as expected. The company had estimated that 30 million Blu-ray discs would be sold in 2008, but Tom Adams told the Hollywood Reporter that the final number would likely only be in "the mid 20's."
He blamed the disappointing disc sales in part on a late rise in player sales. However, many analysts have noted that consumers are reluctant to purchase Blu-ray discs because they cost more than their standard-def companions.
ALL TOGETHER NOW SAY BYE BYE TO MILT THE TROLL.
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Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars responds on 2009-01-06 13:02:41.0:
"Blu-ray Player Sales Beat 2008 Estimates" - well, that's very good news to me, since player sales usually mean future sales of discs. --- "But disc sales fell short of expectations." Well, I've tended to give squat about disc sales per se, since they only indicate, duh, current disc sales, NOT future ones. Like, a zillion sales of, say, TDK are highly misleading, because they merely show that there are a zillion PS3 freaks out there, who are unlikely to buy another BD for a loooooooong time to come.
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Blu Titan responds on 2009-01-06 13:18:05.0:
Blu-ray standalone players sold VERY well as I have posted (from my own personal observation) and there is not doubt that disc sales are going to increase exponentially. That mean more great movie like The Last Emperador will get a Blu-ray release. Go figure.
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Blu Titan responds on 2009-01-06 13:22:31.0:
Mike you posted a couple of days ago about the cnn's movie critic choices for best movies of 2008. Two more are have been announced for release in Blu-ray. The JCVD movie and MILLIONAIRE will also be released on blu-ray on the same day - right before the oscars =)
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Milt R. Smith responds on 2009-01-06 13:50:27.0:
ON BLU-RAY DISK SALES: See my post from yesterday(not hard independent evidence, but purportedly accurate): For 2008 total standard DVD sales of 240-million, and 17-million Blu-Ray. In other words, since last May's 'official' 6% share of market for BD, that digit has increased a BLAZING, SEARING, ROCKETING 1% to around 7%. What does it mean? That BD is nothing but the same niche product it has been all along. ALL TOGETHER NOW, SAY BYE-BYE TO ALL OPTICAL DISKS AND HARD DRIVES!
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Milt R. Smith responds on 2009-01-06 13:54:25.0:
SONY IN THE FINANCIAL TANK(http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article5446963.ece), IMO largely due its $5.25-BILLION loss in its BluRay/PS3 operation as reported to the Securities Exchange Commission in November, 2007. It's an EXTRAORDINARY loss that the division will NEVER mathematically be able to recoup. In fact, BluRay may prove to be the one of the biggest financial flops not only in electronics, but in all categories. ALL TOGETHER NOW, SAY BYE-BYE TO ALL OPTICAL DISKS AND HARD DRIVES !!!
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Blu Titan responds on 2009-01-06 15:39:13.0:
BYE BYE to Milt The TROLL Smith. And Buy Buy Buy optical BD discs, I just did. Purchased Kingdom of Heaven, Shrek The Third, and John Carpenter's Assault on Precint 13 for an average of 14.66 each in the new Amazon B2G1 free sale.
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Blu Titan responds on 2009-01-06 15:45:18.0:
Milt the A S S H O L E is posting financial reports from 2007?! BTW Milty more 25 million BD movies were sold in 2008, and EXPECT that number to increase 400% in 2009. BYE BYE BYE to Internet trolls like Milt R Smith!!!!
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John responds on 2009-01-06 16:22:55.0:
Mike could you post that picture of Kendall again? I need a good laugh!
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Blu-Ray is more about having than watching,link - Hide thread - By Kevin Dees on January 5, 2009:
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Having Blu-Ray is just a good, if not better than watching Blu-Ray! That's just how powerful Blu is! I've honestly bought movies that I have never watched. But you know what, just having the movie sit... Show entire thread and 0 responses
- Having Blu-Ray is just a good, if not better than watching Blu-Ray! That's just how powerful Blu is! I've honestly bought movies that I have never watched. But you know what, just having the movie sitting there in that tiny package with the crisp 1080P content, is enough for me to work up a warm and fuzzy. When a new movie comes out on Blu-Ray, I benefit from it even if I don't buy it, because I still get off since it is out there, and I have the hardware to buy and play it at any time. Even when my PS3 is off, I am still enjoying it, just by knowing that the best of the best is right there in my living room.
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"Blu-ray's fuzzy future" - a fuzzy look at Blu-ray - Hide thread - By Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars on January 5, 2009:
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The Bottom line: "When Vudu popped up and had more high-definition movies than Blu-ray, it was a warning sign," said Rob Enderle, president of the Enderle Group, which advises technology companies lik... Show entire thread and 5 responses
- The Bottom line: "When Vudu popped up and had more high-definition movies than Blu-ray, it was a warning sign," said Rob Enderle, president of the Enderle Group, which advises technology companies like Microsoft and Toshiba. "I think Blu-ray can sustain itself as a transition technology, but, at the end of the day, I don't think it will ever replace the DVD."
Still, for some consumers, nothing beats the crisp, clear picture of a Blu-ray disc. "It's a huge difference," said Gary Tsang, 31, a computer network engineer in San Francisco who bought a $299 Blu-ray player in October and was among the shoppers who rushed out to buy "The Dark Knight" last month.
Tsang added that Blu-ray made a real difference only when viewed on a good high-definition television, like the one his family bought in February for $2,700. "We're not bleeding edge, but we're cutting edge."
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Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars responds on 2009-01-05 20:55:14.0:
And, here is one for Milty: "5. On-Demand Video Will Rule
At last year's CES, we saw the precipitous collapse of HD DVD. I'd gone on record many times stating that Blu-ray would win, but even I was shocked at just how quickly HD DVD died. This year we will see a lot of new fully featured Blu-ray players, and prices will finally become low enough for the masses to upgrade. Nonetheless, the future will be in video downloads and streaming." - http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2337845,00.asp - Nooooooooo, downloads and streaming only compete in the RENTAL market. Meaning, I may just short BB shares. Coming to think of it, I also should short stock from companies betting on DDs. Like Milty boy likes to say, "follow the money". Yes indeed - when you can predict that a company will lose their shirt, not to mention shorts, it's only prudent to short (pun intended) their stock, eh? Go figure
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responds on 2009-01-05 21:06:11.0:
Rob Enderle, the tech dork from Yahoo, along with the Robin guy are probably the two best known SHILLS blogging in the Internet. Noy my opinion but A FACT fowarded to me from
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Blu Titan responds on 2009-01-05 21:09:09.0:
...someone that knows what REALLY goes on. Enderle works for M$ and To$h, and he has ZERO credibility in the industry. the same for the Robin guy who owns / has substantial interest in Harddrive storage technology. Partial post above is mine.
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Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars responds on 2009-01-05 21:18:09.0:
Duh, that was my point. Enderle seems to try and jump on the bandwagon, thought often misses. Like, as I've mentioned before, DDs are technically a no-brainer. Copyright protection is a brainer. Meaning, HD downloads at best will be 1080i, but not 1080p - which you can only get from HD DVDs or BDs. And, when your DDs soak up too much band width, as with HD content with lossless sound, your ISP will charge you lotsa bucks, too. Go figure
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Milt R. Smith responds on 2009-01-06 14:22:46.0:
IS ENDERLE COPYING MILTY? Sure sounds like it, following my prediction of so many months ago, that the future of home movie viewing is download/streaming, with on-disk a transitional phase. Oh, and for MikeHD(the perennial behind-the-curve yesterday's man), VuDu's HGX service offers 1080p hi-def(not just 1080i); some BestBuy stores already have demo kiosks showing it. ALL TOGETHER NOW, SAY BYE-BYE TO ALL OPTICAL DISKS AND HARD-DRIVES !!!
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Milt prefers electronic versions, apparently, .... - Hide thread - By Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars on January 5, 2009:
Milt prefers electronic versions, apparently, .... - Show thread - By Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars on January 5, 2009 - 18 responses - Last response on January 6, 2009
... over mechanical versions. Soooooo, a simple question arises: what kind of car does he drive? A non-mechanical one? One without spinning wheels? Let me guess - Milt rides a Magic Carpet. One that a... Show entire thread and 18 responses
- ... over mechanical versions. Soooooo, a simple question arises: what kind of car does he drive? A non-mechanical one? One without spinning wheels? Let me guess - Milt rides a Magic Carpet. One that allows him to float above any rational arguments, as I've noticed.
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Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars responds on 2009-01-05 01:37:18.0:
And, dare I say, the size of my penis, as queried below, seems kinda irrelevant to to the topic, eh? Though I'm sure that it is bigger than that A$$HOLE's wondering.
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Milt's Nemesis responds on 2009-01-05 09:35:21.0:
A New Year, and a new Toshiba DONKEY hobbles into town "Toshiba introducing SD-friendly players for flash card movies that no one buys. We hate to harsh on Toshiba here, we honestly do, but what in the world is it thinking? As if its clearly unimpressive Super Resolution Technology wasn't embarrassing enough, we're now hearing that the outfit is expected to release a line of prototype players at CES next week that tout SD card slots. Why, you ask? To accept the flash card movies that -- you guessed it -- no one on the entire planet is interested in. Okay, so maybe a handful of people (you know, the same characters who thought slotMusic was a solid idea) will buy in, but seriously, this has failure written all over it. The move comes hot on the heels of a Toshiba / Mod Systems tie-up to establish kiosks that sell films on SD cards, though we're still curious as to whether these SD card players will be of the standalone variety or integrated into upscaling DVD decks. We'll keep an open mind 'til we see the final product(s) at CES, but it'll take a belated Christmas miracle for this to be even halfway awesome." - http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/toshiba-to-intro-sd-friendly-players-for-flash-card-movies-that/
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Blu Titan responds on 2009-01-05 11:13:21.0:
Great post Milt's Nemesis. After reading that very informative article we can all state with full confidence...BYE BYE to Milt The TROLL Smith!!!!!
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Milt R. Smith responds on 2009-01-05 14:38:51.0:
yuppa, Yuppa, YUPPA ! Check my posts and forecasts last 48 hours, sure as god made little green applies, the SD card revolution accelerates day after day. First it was Panasonic with its 32GB SD card readers on its newest plasma TVs, now it's Toshiba with what sound slike stand-alone SD card players for movies. See also my posts explaining why it is MONEY driving all of this,and while it will take off on its own. All together now, SAY BYE-BYE TO ALL OPTICAL DISKS AND HARD DRIVES !!!
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Milt R. Smith responds on 2009-01-05 14:44:24.0:
POOR MIKE HD, ONCE AGAIN SO FAR BEHIND THE CURVE, HE CAN SEE HIS OWN REAR-END DISAPPEARING INTO THE SUNSET. True to form, he obviously prefers those clunky, clumsy '80s-era optical disks to 21st century no-moving-parts/utterly silent/ultra-tiny SD cards. And, of course, best I can tell, he now has copy of 'The Godfather' on, what, the 17th or 18th format? All together now, SAY BYE-BYE TO ALL O/Ds AND HARD DRIVES !!!
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UK Sky HD user responds on 2009-01-05 15:00:29.0:
Miltie, you describe Mike HD as having a copy of The Godfather on the "17th or 18th Format". How would you describe a "Godfather" SD flick on a stick? Would it be the 19th format or not format at all? Numbnuts.
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Milt R. Smith responds on 2009-01-05 15:22:04.0:
UK SKY HD USER, on MikeHD and 'The Godfather' on SD(?) No, at this point I wouldn't describe it at all, because MikeHD obviously from his posts has his feet in cement wedded to optical disks. And this would be, what, his 19th format? Maybe even for MikeHD that's ENOUGH already(?) MikeHD is yesterday's man, today.
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Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars responds on 2009-01-05 15:27:24.0:
Well, I actually don't own ANY (format) version of The Godfather - I'll buy it in BD one of these days, but I'm in no great hurry. And, last I've counted I've had 3 formats - VHS, DVD, and HD DVD. Blu-ray, if you like, is my 4th one - but it reall is just another HD DVD flavor, meaning I'm not going to replace any of my HD DVDs with BDs. As I mentioned, I also have tons of 8mm video clips - as well as an 8mm deck (in addition to a couple of 8mm camcorders I still have. And yeah, I've also a couple of pre-recorded, "packaged" 8mm videos - Top Gun being one of those. Though I got Top Gun in DVD when it came out, and recently in HD DVD, for real cheap. In general, I've replaced all relevant VHS tapes with DVDs, and have replaced some relevant DVDs with HD DVDs - about a dozen or more. And, I've also started to replace DVDs with BDs - notably James Bond. And JB comprises about the only videos that I'd upgraded to from VHS to DVD, and am now upgrading to an HD version. The only other DVD that I've upgraded to BD is "The Curse of the Golden Flower" - because I'd wanted to watch it again in HighDef with better sound, too.
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Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars responds on 2009-01-05 15:35:33.0:
Forgot to mention that I also have a bunch of HD video clips in AVCHD on compact DVDs and memory sticks. AVCHD is also compatible with Blu-ray and SD and HDSD cards, meaning it is pretty independent of the underlying storage. Needless to say, you can also copy AVCHD to hard drives, for editing. Seems like the ONLY losing format I've bought into (apart from VHS) is HD DVD. But, that loss really has been a gain for me, since I've bought hundreds of titles "blind", for maybe $10 per flick, on the average.
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Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars responds on 2009-01-05 16:04:42.0:
And, no, I'm NOT the one who is "SO FAR BEHIND THE CURVE" - I already have an SD/HDSD card player (also memory stick) with HDMI out. Have used it to play back HD video clips I'd taken - on my 6 foot HDTV, through my Onkyo 605 receiver for the HD sound. Sooooooo, Milty boy, what do YOU have for SD playback? Your cheapo 1080i minicam? Without HDMI? And you clown call me "wedded" to ODs? With my "feet in cement "? I have state of the art equipment - seems like I am way ahead of you there. And, I'm also way ahead of you with being able to enjoy (and possess hundreds of) 1080p flicks with lossless sound. Did I mention that I can get HD downloads to my "SD" player, too? Also with HDMI out? You, however, from what I can tell, got NOTHING. Get real, Milty boy, and put your money where your mouth is. Walk the walk. I do.
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Milt R. Smith responds on 2009-01-05 16:32:49.0:
MIKE HD: BY DEFINITION, ANYBODY WEDDED TO OPTICAL DISKS --- AS YOUR POSTS FOR MOVIES UNEQUIVOCALLY ATTEST --- as you are, can ONLY be referred to as W A A A A A Y behind the curve. Be sure to stay tuned to info from this year's CES. It's going to be a revelation for you. ALL TOGETHER NOW, SAY BYE-BYE TO ALL O/Ds AND HARD DRIVES !!!
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Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars responds on 2009-01-05 19:14:19.0:
Wow, I should have guessed, eh? Milty boy now has the inside track on the CES, too. "It's going to be a revelation for you." LOL
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Milt R. Smith responds on 2009-01-05 19:40:49.0:
Mike HD is a has been, a dinoasour about to become extinct. The TRUTH is that after weeks of looking at both an HD-DVD player from Toshiba and the new Samsung Blu-Ray S350 (store diplays): what I've seen pretty much matches the professional reports from
Los Angeles Times Research as reported by staff writer David Colker. There's just no real 'WOW!' factor and hence no real 'bang for the buck' so far. A first-class upconversion of a high-quality standard DVD is little different from what you'll see on
either of these players with the titles released to date. Specifically,
I saw 'Serenity' hi-def version with an upconverted standard DVD version side-by-side with 5 other people at a local major store in the L.A. area and we were all surprised at how little was the difference: incrementally better resolution, color saturation and contrast, but nothing a couple of hundreds of dollars on. In the intervening months has been the independent Oppo study which confirmed most viewers could not tell difference between upcon and native. Toshiba gave Paramount/Dreamworks 150-million reasons earlier to go HD-DVD exclusive, Sony gave Warner Bros 500-million reasons to go for BluRay only, and hi-speed movie downloads are HERE NOW. Net result? Sony won nothing but bragging rights, and Joe Sixpack had little or no input into which format won, having been decided by a very mundane pay-to-play arrangement. Business as usual. My guess is sd cards will just eliminate on-disk distribution in 12-24 months, sooner rather than later. Makes sense both from a convenience and economic standpoint. SAY BYE-BYE TO ALL O/Ds AND HARD DRIVES !!!
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Milt R. Smith responds on 2009-01-05 20:05:57.0:
LAST POST IN MY NAME IS A FAKE, AN IMPOST. Looks as if somebody mixed wording from some of my old posts with the current player nomenclature. Don't know if it's complimentary or not, but O/Ds are STILL going away in favor of SDs no matter what.
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Blu Titan responds on 2009-01-05 20:28:03.0:
Madagscar and Top Gun BDS are on sale @ Amazon for $13.99, BUY, BUY, BUY optical discs ;-)
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Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars responds on 2009-01-05 20:42:29.0:
I already got Top Gun in 8mm video (!), DVD, and HD DVD. Blu-ray ain't NO improvement over the latter, sooooooooo, thanks, but NO thanks. That said (written), a certain A$$hole needs to stop posting crap in others peoples names. He can post crap in his own handle, eh? But, nobody would pay attention. And, nobody gives credence to a post once it is disavowed by the real poster. Soooo, fake poster, just give it up, I don't think ANYBODY likes you. Unless, of course, you really are the admin here, trying to stir controversy. Well, that seems to backfire, because most people apparently are just fed up with the crap fake postings. Which is why almost nobody posts here any longer. Go figure.
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UK Sky HD user responds on 2009-01-06 00:35:09.0:
Miltie, BTW, cutting and pasting together anecdotal garbage from your boring old posts, with regular glaring errors, is actually what you do anyway. Numbnuts.
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Milt R. Smith responds on 2009-01-06 14:26:22.0:
UK SKY HD USER, on "pasting together". No, as shown above, that was an obvious impost, cutting and pasting some of my words with other information. I don't need any help, thank you. LL TOGETHER NOW, SAY BYE-BYE TO ALL OPTICAL DISKS AND HARD DRIVES !!!
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Some A$$HOLE thread cutting, with A$$HOLE topic... - Hide thread - By Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars on January 4, 2009:
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Doesn't exactly cut it though, eh?... Show entire thread and 5 responses
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Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars responds on 2009-01-04 22:09:38.0:
"I always knew that Blu-Ray was more than just plastic discs, but I couldn't quite put my finger on what was going on until yesterday." Well, "yesterday" was a year ago. Been on a nice acid trip, eh?
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Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars responds on 2009-01-05 01:21:10.0:
Some A$$HOLE thread cutting, with A$$HOLE topic...
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I always knew that Blu-Ray was more than just plastic discs, but I couldn't quite put my finger on what was going on until yesterday. I put in "I am Legend," and BAM, I was in a post apocalyptic New Y... Show entire thread and 0 responses
- I always knew that Blu-Ray was more than just plastic discs, but I couldn't quite put my finger on what was going on until yesterday. I put in "I am Legend," and BAM, I was in a post apocalyptic New York. Then I went to "Planet Earth," and I blasted off to outer space to observe the Earth from afar. Then came "Juno," where I traveled back in time to re-live my adolescence. And I traveled thousands of years more back in time after that with "300." And then it hits me: Blu-Ray is more than just discs-- Blu-Ray is life! Blu-Ray is so realistic that I can pop in a movie, and in seconds I will travel across tens of thousands of miles, or travel hundreds of years through time. Now that's Blu-Ray hi def!
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DVDs -- How And Why You Should Switch To BluRay,li - Hide thread - By Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars on January 2, 2009:
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"Yep, it's time to make the switch to BluRay. You should buy a BluRay player and/or start buying movies on BluRay instead of regular DVDs wherever it makes sense." ... "[Even if ] You own a regular TV... Show entire thread and 44 responses
- "Yep, it's time to make the switch to BluRay. You should buy a BluRay player and/or start buying movies on BluRay instead of regular DVDs wherever it makes sense." ... "[Even if ] You own a regular TV -- Buy a BluRay player today and in the future buy only BluRay titles. BluRay players are now very cheap ($200 is common). It seems like an additional expense but every time you buy a regular DVD when a BluRay version is available for a similar price, you're actually wasting money. It's like buying 8 track tapes when you KNOW you're gonna get a CD player eventually." - Well, Milty boy, what do you think of THAT? You like to talk about 8 track tapes, too, don't you?
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Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars responds on 2009-01-02 22:50:40.0:
Link is here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-giltz/dvds----how-and-why-you-s_b_154840.html
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Cypher responds on 2009-01-03 11:04:47.0:
I was thinking about making a movie about the format war, since I am a film major. I would like Clint Eastwood to play Mike HD, but I had a hard time deciding who would play Milt. Milt's character can be played by someone with limited inteligence and retention skills, since he always repeats the same tired lines year after year. Then it came to me, it's so obvious, Milt will play HIMSELF- like he always wanted be be an actor. I just plan to dress Milt up in a white tuxedo with a top hat, have him running around in a fancy restaurant as he disrupts all of the patrons will YELLING his signature "Say BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE to all O/Ds!!!" Until Milt, reaches Clin't table, gets grabbed by the collar, made to sit, and LISTEN to Mike HD (Clint) tell him the REAL facts regarding home HD entertainment. Soooooo, do you feel lucky PUNK? Well DO YA?
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Milt R. Smith responds on 2009-01-03 13:15:06.0:
IF EVER THERE WAS A DOUBT, THIS US NEWS & WORLD REPORT SHOULD END IT. Now hidef films on SD cards are coming, IMO suggests price impediment on 32GB SD cards has been solved. Like end of 8track era, O/D era ending.
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Milt R. Smith responds on 2009-01-03 13:20:16.0:
SORRY, URL TO THE US NEWS & WORLD REPORT ARTICLE: www.usnews.com/blogs/daves-download/2008/
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Blu Titan responds on 2009-01-03 13:23:18.0:
A BLOG about downloads from "Dave" Classic Milt The TROLL Smith material :-)
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Milt R. Smith responds on 2009-01-03 13:23:35.0:
SORRY IF I MISSED URL TO US NEWS & WORLD REPORT ARTICLE: www.usnews.com/blogs/daves-download/2008/
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Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars responds on 2009-01-03 13:49:55.0:
Says: "The kiosks will *start* with single music tracks and *then* DVD-quality movies, but will *eventually* dump HD-quality films onto SD cards that can be plugged into set-top players or even TVs." --- Well, I ain't interested in "single music tracks", nor in "DVD-quality movies". As for "dump HD-quality films onto SD cards" - by THAT time the internet will be fast enough (says Obama), so I won't need to travel miles in my 4 wheel drive V8 luxury Xover. That car is intended to go skiing and stuff, but NOT to drive to a local kiosk to download a flick in a flash. Hell, I can just WALK to my mailbox to receive and return NetFlix BDs. As for "SD cards that can be plugged into set-top players or even TVs." Well, the SLOTS may be there with some TVs - doesn't mean you can decode especially the lossless surround sound, or pass it on to a receiver that could do that.
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Milt R. Smith responds on 2009-01-03 14:04:49.0:
MIKE HD, ON DRIVING AROUND ETC. Physical media only for those who don't want electronic delivery. Panasonic's newest plasmas with AVC-HD SD slots are sure sign of what's coming. BYE BYE TO ALL O/Ds!!!
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Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars responds on 2009-01-03 14:18:48.0:
"... sure sign of what's coming". Let my try to put this gently. I live in the here and now. Blu-ray is in the here and now, too. I don't live in the future, I just plan for it. My planning for the future includes that sage advise that I quoted in my thread here: " every time you buy a regular DVD when a BluRay version is available for a similar price, you're actually wasting money." Of course, you're not wasting any money either by waiting for, say, TDK to come out in a flash in some distant future. However, you don't get to have it NOW, eh? Like, you get NOTHING. Well, with my living in the here and now, I also want to enjoy things in the here and now. Go figure.
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Milt R. Smith responds on 2009-01-03 14:24:20.0:
MIKE HD ON HIDEF FLICKS ON SD CARDS BEING A LOOOOONG WAY OFF? In view of the enormous investments by NEC, Toshiba, SanDisk & Panasonic in these new kiosks, you don't seriously believe that, do you?
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Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars responds on 2009-01-03 14:25:11.0:
As for "Physical media only for those who don't want electronic delivery." - well, your touted kiosk download service is electronic delivery onto physical media (yes, SD cards ARE physical media) that you then carry (drive) back home again. And, you get to pay for the physical media, the downloading, and the gas and wear and tear on your car - not to mention wasting gobs of time driving around. Not MY style. I got better things to do with my money and my life - like renting/buying and watching Blu-rays. Go figure. Everyone else will, too.
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Milt R. Smith responds on 2009-01-03 14:54:03.0:
MIKE HD, ON MY PREDICTIONS. Here's another new one: unless BD can be ported/migrated to SD cards(for those that just GOTS to have removable, physical media), it's a DEAD DUCK in no more than 24 to 36 months, tops.
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Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars responds on 2009-01-03 15:21:43.0:
Milty boy, you seem confused. There is no "porting/migration" effort required to put BD *content* onto SD cards. Blu-ray is mostly a physical storage format. I can, in principle, take my HD takes from my memory sticks and burn them onto a BD. There's more to it than that with interactive content and PP. Don't have time to get into that now, though. You might want to spend a little bit of time trying to understand what storage, content, software, and codecs are all about.
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UK Sky HD user responds on 2009-01-03 15:45:47.0:
Best wishes for the new year. Miltie, Engadget is openly insulting the concept of flick on chips. Just now their lead story quotes "flash card movies that -- you guessed it -- no one on the entire planet is interested in" lick it up here: http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/toshiba-to-intro-sd-friendly-players-for-flash-card-movies-that/ You might want to reconsider your losing position? Numbnuts.
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Blu Titan responds on 2009-01-03 17:03:52.0:
SD cards are anice little gimmick Milt...Nothins more READ THIS: "Polar Frog Digital reinvented its kiosks in the fall to offer download to SD and micro SD cards and to USB devices. Polar Frog has plans to roll out kiosks to 200 universities, where they will target a consumer base that regularly uses iPods and mobile phones to watch digital video.
Nonetheless, Polar Frog president Todd Rosenbaum isnt as bullish about the future of SD cards as a home entertainment format, believing DVD burning will be more popular because most people already have a player.
I dont see people taking a card out of their Blackberry to download a movie, he said."
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Blu Titan responds on 2009-01-03 18:14:36.0:
After reading what the President of Polar Frog Digital had to say about SD cards, I can HONESTLY say...BYE BYE to Milt The TROLL Smith, and BUY BUY optical discs!
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Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars responds on 2009-01-03 20:16:08.0:
"BUY BUY optical discs!" - well, according to my thread, it really should be BDs. Whatever.
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Milt R. Smith responds on 2009-01-03 20:32:47.0:
WELL THEN, IF I READ MIKE HD CORRECTLY ON THE SUBJECT there is no technical problem porting BDs to SD CARDS(?) Then my latest prog' is accurate and BD will live beyond next 24-36 months, because IMO the SD revolution will be long underway by then.
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Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars responds on 2009-01-03 21:05:15.0:
"IF I READ MIKE HD CORRECTLY ON THE SUBJECT" - you don't. Talking about "porting" BDs to SDs is just as dumbass as talking about "porting" HD (Hard Disk) files to, say, DVD, when burning them to DVD. There is no "porting" involved, it is a simple data transfer. The real issue is whether that data can be *interpreted* - not just read, correctly. Because of stuff like encryption which, duh, requires decryption. Sooooo, all you REALLY need are the software drivers that would decrypt and provide copyright protection for your SD players. And, the REAL issue here is that the major studios just won't go for releasing their crown jewel hd flicks in a flash. Though THAT never stopped piracy, eh? Soooooo, buddy, just WHERE are all those pirated BDs (or HD DVDs) in a flash (SD card)? DO TELL, eh?
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Milt R. Smith responds on 2009-01-03 21:05:18.0:
NOW KIDDIES, A SIMPLE LESSON IN WHY SD CARDS WILL RAPIDLY REPLACE O/Ds AS A ALL-INCLUSIVE STORAGE MEDIUM: M O N E Y, THAT'S M-O-N-E-Y, you dummies. For purposes of distributing flicks, SDs make possible ultra-small, low-cost players for those without devices already in hand capable of playing them. They make possible Physical storage of flicks on such chips of 1000-plus titles in or via kiosks, rather than 100 physical now. Because such players have no moving parts, the infuriating failure of those whirring, clicking 80s era O/Ds a thing of the past. SD cards make possible flicks on hangers, even at supermarket check-out stands. For consumers, it means no bulky O/D player to take up space next to the HDTV. But, most importantly, SDs ultimately translate out to a low, low cost distribution media(for those like MIKE HD that just GOTS to have something to hold, to have, to caress like a security blanket. ) Watch upcoming CES for some rollout, and then a cascade of new offerings using SD technology including hidef flicks. All of this means the potential for some truly MASSIVE new profit avenues, and NEC, Toshiba, SanDisk and Panasonic are already at the gate licking their chops, positively salivating at the potential. Next clue: watch competing HDTV manufacturers match Panasonic with SD slots for 32GBs.
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Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars responds on 2009-01-03 21:22:04.0:
Nah, nah, nah - it's the studios that call the shots, as we've seen. It took Warner to refuse releasing further flicks in HD DVD to kill that format off. Without studio support, flicks in a flash will be a flash in the pan. At least the money making ones. The technology is there for flicks in a chip, the finances, however, don't support that medium, nor do the studios. Why not the studios? Well, because pirating flicks in a chip is pirating flicks in a flash - literally - a no-brainer. The studios know that, I know that, which is why the studios won't release their flicks in a flash, and which is why I know that the studios won't release their flicks in a flash. Go figure.
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Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars responds on 2009-01-03 21:26:57.0:
And, yeah, those SD slots for HighDef flicks on your TV are really just for your family flicks from your camcorder. Those don't require copy protection, eh?
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Blu Titan responds on 2009-01-03 21:29:51.0:
Mike I agree with your points. SD cards will never be an important medium for high quality release of HD films because of the PIRACY or just plain COPYING inherent with SD cards. A film on a flash card can be copied ZILLIONS of times without any problems. Anyone think that the studios will put up with that? Ruin a multi billion dollar industry so Milt can gave his way?? Does anyone have an idead w | | |
