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Prediction: Blu-ray Will Unseat Standard DVDs,link - Hide thread - By  Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars on August 20, 2008:
- http://www.usnews.com/blogs/daves-download/2008/8/19/prediction-blu-ray-will-unseat-standard-dvds.html - that's US News and World Report, NOT some chatroom. Says: "Today brings a more upbeat forecast for Blu-ray. The high-def disks are gaining traction and will outsell standard DVDs by 2012 in the United States, at least in dollar value, says Futuresource Consulting. U.S. consumers could buy 45 million of the disks this year, or about four times as many as last year, the group says. Sales will accelerate as players creep down in price, with Futuresource echoing earlier predictions that the holiday season could see a Blu-ray player for as little as $200." Report inappropriate content
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Milt R. Smith responds on 2008-08-20 21:14:40.0: HOW I LOVE PREDICTIONS, LET ME COUNT THE WAYS: What's so great about them, is that they have no downside risk. I can predict that a replacement power source for my Cadillac will get 100 miles a gallon(or run for a thousand miles on a 2-hour electrical charge), and can't be criticised for making it. That's the nature of the beast. "Oh well, things have changed so much in the last 3 years, that my 2012 prediction, made in 2008, was wildly off-base. I tried, but who could know what would happen in the meantime. Mea culpa, mea culpa. Now, I've got to get my predictions for 2016 ready, so you guys sit back and await the wonders I say are coming!!!" HaHaHaHaHaHaHa! Report inappropriate content
responds on 2008-08-20 21:41:56.0: says the man who predicts digital downloads to be the end of mainstream optical disks, while presently they are only 1% of the revenue. Report inappropriate content
Milt R. Smith responds on 2008-08-20 21:52:57.0: ANONYMOUS, on predictions: You finally got it! My predictions, and those quoted elsewhere, are no better or worse than any other. God, it took a LOOOONG time for you to get it, but that delay period is said to be a side-effect of inhaling so deeply, sort of like being unable to concentrate. Report inappropriate content
MiltyFa g responds on 2008-08-20 22:52:27.0: i love to like the cream filling out of boys who have just begun to cum. the trick to fully enjoy this is not to swallow immediately, but to gurgle it in your mouth for about 30-45 sec. and then let the cum slide down your throat. Report inappropriate content
Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars responds on 2008-08-20 23:06:05.0: Wow, NOW Milty boy is trying to claim that HIS predictions are no worse or better than "any other" Well, to put the matter VERY succinctly - if Milty boy's predictions are as good as any other (by implication), we are in DEEP pucky. However, that ain't exactly the case. Milty boy predicted that whatever format could get a player out for $167 (or such) would win the format war. HD DVD players got even cheaper than that, but lost out. Milty boy WAS WRONG. Mike HD, on the other hand, predicted last Fall that, no matter what, Blu-ray would continue in at least a minority role, a niche product. Guess what - it did. Mike The Pirate WAS RIGHT. And, I'm NOT going to belabor everyone with The Pirate striking it rich with gold investments, and - now - the liquid form of gold. I'm getting the impression that everyone is getting REAL bored with all that. Especially Milty boy, since I've been getting stuff right, and he's been getting it wrong. No wonder he now is trying to claim that his predictions are on par with anyone else's. Nice try, Milty boy. Actually, a pretty sorry-assed rear-guard action, if you get my drift. Aha Haha Haha Report inappropriate content
Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars responds on 2008-08-20 23:07:21.0: MiltyFa g - go F_CK OFF. Report inappropriate content
Blu Titan responds on 2008-08-20 23:08:16.0: Milt, once again you are CLUELESS. Every business needs to cover all of its costs in order to make a profit. Suppose you had a Hyundai car dealership. For this SPECIFIC business, profit will be measured by how many UNITS ARE SOLD AND THE PRICE FOR EACH UNIT!. However, if you compare a Hyundai dealership and a Lexus dealership you could not use units sold as a valid comparison standard between the two. The profits margin for each Lexus sold is much greater than that of a Hyundai. Thus, you could sell a lot more Hundais than Lexus and have lower net income. Working out your costs accurately is an essential part of working out your pricing. Business costs will be classified under two under two headings: ---- fixed costs are those that are always there, regardless of how much or how little you sell, for example rent, salaries and business rates ---- variable costs are those that rise as with each car sold: sales commissions, processing expenses, costs of purchasing the vehicle, ect. ---When you set a price, it must be higher than the variable cost of producing your product or service. Each sale will then make a contribution towards covering your fixed costs --- and making profits. ---For example, a car dealership has variable costs of $16,000 per car sold and total fixed costs of $400,000 a year that must be covered. If the company sells 80 cars each year, it needs a contribution towards the fixed costs of at least $5,000 per car ($400,000 divided by 80) to avoid making a loss. However, at some point a car dealership will sell cars at a price that covers the fixed costs but does not contribute the full $5,000 of the variable costs. However, the deficit in the amount that the business needs to cover its variable costs needs to be recaptured at some point, or the business will go bankrupt Using this structure, you can assess the consequences of setting different price levels: --- if the car dealership sells cars at less than $16,000 (the variable cost per car), it makes a loss on each car it sells and does not cover any of its fixed costs ---selling 80 cars at $16,000 means a loss of $400,000 per year as none of the fixed costs are covered ---selling cars at $21,000 results in breaking even, assuming the target 80 cars are sold (80 contributions of $5,000 per car = $400,000, ie the fixed costs) --- selling cars at $22,000 results in a profit, assuming 80 cars are sold (80 contributions of $1,000 = $1,760,000, ie $80,000 over the fixed costs) --- if more or fewer than 80 cars are sold, profits are correspondingly higher or lower. ALL TOGETHER NOW: SAY BYE BYE TO MILT R SMITH! Report inappropriate content
Blu Titan responds on 2008-08-20 23:14:53.0: BTW I agree with Mike...The Milty impostor needs to get a real life! Report inappropriate content
Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars responds on 2008-08-20 23:33:33.0: Well, that WAS an interesting diatribe against Milty boy, though I didn't exactly (bother to) follow. That bit about "variable cost" usually is put forth as recurrent cost - essentially production and distribution costs. Even there, we have a certain fixed cost - the cost of setting up production lines, for instance. However, I hope that everyone appreciates the fact that producing a BD player is a heck of a lot more than stamping out a BD. Even relative to "development" costs. Never mind that production lines for BD players are a just a tad bit more involved than cookie-stamping BDs. All the same, EVERYONE is trying to pay off/down the non-recurrent costs. Optimally. Sooooooo, if someone figures that their product will go commodity pricing in the near future, they'll try to get the most out of their current sales. Soooo, The Pirate explains to Milty boy that current BD prices are STILL HIGH because everyone expects them to drop majorly very soon. Soooo, Milty boy, any retort to this that doesn't involve your used car sales tactics? Report inappropriate content
Mike HD The Pirate of the Format Wars responds on 2008-08-20 23:37:15.0: "BTW I agree with Mike...The Milty impostor needs to get a real life!" - probably a real sex life, in any case. It most likely would help matters, eh? Jacking off here this way just doesn't cut it. Report inappropriate content
responds on 2008-08-21 10:32:15.0: "My predictions, and those quoted elsewhere, are no better or worse than any other." spoken just like someone who doesn't know a lick about predictions. you see, some predictions are based on things that those of us in the real world refer to as "facts" and "polls" and "statistical analysis." such predictions are more likely to occur than those that are not, or, in your case, totally contradict any competent statistical analysis. here's an interesting challenge, milty-boy: come up with one verifiable prediction that you have on this board made that has inarguably come true. i might suggest that you leave these boards if you cannot do so, but honestly, that would take so much joy out of my daily life, that i would not even dare to request it. many of us can point to at least one successful prediction - we read the numbers and predicted the demise of hd-dvd. you can perhaps argue that blu-ray has not won, but hd-dvd definitely lost. Report inappropriate content

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